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Scoriger 2008-4-10 06:56 PM

MATH expert come in

<P>Need help in number theory:</P>
<P>(1) If a is rational, b is irrational, prove that a+b is irrational.</P>
<P>(2) if a is rational, b is irrational, prove that ab is irrational, for a != 0.</P>
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<P>This is like common sense... How to prove it??</P>
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k4knight 2008-4-10 07:03 PM

<P>hehe,就是因为是common sense,才能体现出数学家孜孜不倦的钻研精神啊~~~~</P>
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<P>用定义直接推就好了</P>

Scoriger 2008-4-10 07:14 PM

Assume (a+b) is rational, so (a+b)=c/d, where gcd(c,d)=1.
=> (a+b)d=c => c|d
Since gcd(c,d)=1, c!|d
Hence, there is a contradiction in the assumption.
=> (a+b) cannot be expressed in the form c/d. i.e. (a+b) is irrational.


Is my proof correct??

k4knight 2008-4-10 07:26 PM

<P>。。。</P>
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<P>没那么复杂了,我贴了第一题的答案,第二题照着做吧</P>

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Scoriger 2008-4-10 07:28 PM

where??

k4knight 2008-4-10 07:31 PM

<P>[quote]原帖由 <I>Scoriger</I> 于 2008-4-10 07:28 PM 发表 <A href="http://www.umasscssa.org/forum/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=129004&amp;ptid=10536" target=_blank><IMG alt="" src="http://www.umasscssa.org/forum/images/common/back.gif" border=0></A> where?? [/quote]</P>
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<P>汗,我果然BC</P>

marthanovera 2008-4-10 07:40 PM

我开始认真复习复习复习::inspired

Scoriger 2008-4-10 07:46 PM

<P>[quote]原帖由 <I>k4knight</I> 于 2008-4-10 06:31 PM 发表 <A href="http://www.umasscssa.org/forum/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=129005&amp;ptid=10536" target=_blank><IMG alt="" src="http://www.umasscssa.org/forum/images/common/back.gif" border=0></A> &nbsp; 汗,我果然BC [/quote]</P>
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<P>Thank you!!! you possess great niubility!!!</P>
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Scoriger 2008-4-10 07:47 PM

<P>[quote]原帖由 <I>marthanovera</I> 于 2008-4-10 06:40 PM 发表 <A href="http://www.umasscssa.org/forum/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=129008&amp;ptid=10536" target=_blank><IMG alt="" src="http://www.umasscssa.org/forum/images/common/back.gif" border=0></A> 我开始认真复习复习复习<IMG src="http://www.umasscssa.org/forum/images/smilies/yangcongtou/inspired.gif" border=0 smilieid="93"> [/quote]</P>
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<P>Don't worry! this homework is due on monday...</P>
<P>i have not started my revision for tmr's exam! haha...</P>

aeolus 2008-4-11 11:24 AM

fan zheng
a/b - c/d
(a/b)/(c/d)
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