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中国问题俱乐部成立帖

首先，发布这个广告的时候，我是真诚和严肃的。跟邪教有关的坛主<wbr>，护法等一干人先不要笑。教主偶尔也可以不那么邪恶。
<div><br></div><div>进入正题：</div><div><br></div><div>正如大家都能看到的，今天的我们处在一个特殊的时代<wbr>。不管是支持奥运还是反对藏独，大多数人都直接间接得参与其中<wbr>。这一段经历带给我们很多的经验和教训。不管中国明天怎么变化<wbr>，我们每个人对于中国的了解和思考不应该停止。本着丰富业余生活的目<wbr>的，我们准备组织一个学习讨论中国问题的俱乐部。讨论的问题将会非<wbr>常宽泛，不再仅仅只局限于西藏问题。如果你对政治，经济，军事<wbr>，历史，文化等等有兴趣，或者你觉得有必要更加了解中国<wbr>，请参加这个俱乐部。我们没有强烈的预设立场，所以不论你的立场是左倾右倾还是中立，我们都欢迎你加入。<br>
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第一次活动将在近期（3周之内）举行。现暂有：<br>
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laopeng谈中国货币，经济和政治有关的问题。<br></div><div>宇文成都和swat的论题暂时保密（如对他们有兴趣的，不管男女，不论老少，请来电来函，索取议题）<br>
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此外，我们鼓励有兴趣的同学带来自己的议题。<br>
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至于具体形式和地点，请大家密切关注。<br>
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谢谢（赵本山式）<br>
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是需要有这样一个俱乐部

几点建议：
把沙龙活动固定下来，比如隔周周六晚上7-10pm
每次沙龙有一个主持人，主持人提前准备一些材料，并适当引导大家讨论
沙龙不妨选在家里，而不是教室会议室里；每次准备些零食
找一位书记，每次沙龙结束后，把讨论总结发到版上来

以前搞过沙龙，这是留下来的一点经验。

超级羡慕nana提议的这个俱乐部/沙龙，因为不仅可以讨论社会时事，而且还能包容人文方面的主题。而且提到的诸位个个都是高人。

不管第一次活动在啥时候，俺都一定掺和一下~

说实话，油麦地就是不缺高人。一旦形式搞起来了，后果不堪设想：）唉。

支持教主！

还以为是online的俱乐部。。::ku
还是要顶一个！

<div>具体形式其实可以再多样一些。</div><div>请你继续关注</div><div><br></div><div><br></div>[quote]原帖由 [i]Muggle[/i] 于 2008-5-6 06:41 PM 发表 [url=http://www.umasscssa.org/forum/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=132946&amp;ptid=10966][img]http://www.umasscssa.org/forum/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
还以为是online的俱乐部。。::ku
还是要顶一个！ [/quote]

顶~~~~~

排队报名

怎么个多样？？<br><br>[quote]原帖由 <i>Nirvana</i> 于 2008-5-6 06:45 PM 发表 <a href="http://umasscssa.org/forum/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=132948&amp;ptid=10966" target="_blank"><img src="http://umasscssa.org/forum/images/common/back.gif" alt="" border="0"></a>
具体形式其实可以再多样一些。请你继续关注 [/quote]<br><br><br>

有吃的吗？有招商的吗？有投资的吗？...

现在的答案是No<br>我们要慢慢把它变成yes<br><br><br>[quote]原帖由 <i>imac</i> 于 2008-5-6 10:18 PM 发表 <a href="http://www.umasscssa.org/forum/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=132980&amp;ptid=10966" target="_blank"><img src="http://www.umasscssa.org/forum/images/common/back.gif" alt="" border="0"></a>
有吃的吗？有招商的吗？有投资的吗？... [/quote]

教主好严肃，怕::ku

不过还是支持::crying

支持不仅要精神上的，还要行动上的<br>记得带着kknd和inu来参加<br>[quote]原帖由 <i>zoe</i> 于 2008-5-6 10:53 PM 发表 <a href="http://www.umasscssa.org/forum/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=132986&amp;ptid=10966" target="_blank"><img src="http://www.umasscssa.org/forum/images/common/back.gif" alt="" border="0"></a>
教主好严肃，怕<img src="./images/smilies/yangcongtou/ku.gif" smilieid="87" border="0">

不过还是支持<img src="./images/smilies/yangcongtou/crying.gif" smilieid="83" border="0"> [/quote]

不仅要出钱，还要献人啊<br>[quote]原帖由 <i>Nirvana</i> 于 2008-5-6 11:38 PM 发表 <a href="http://umasscssa.org/forum/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=133001&amp;ptid=10966" target="_blank"><img src="http://umasscssa.org/forum/images/common/back.gif" alt="" border="0"></a>
支持不仅要精神上的，还要行动上的记得带着kknd和inu来参加 [/quote]

<P>[quote]原帖由 <I>Nirvana</I> 于 2008-5-6 11:38 PM 发表 <A href="http://www.umasscssa.org/forum/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=133001&amp;ptid=10966" target=_blank><IMG alt="" src="http://www.umasscssa.org/forum/images/common/back.gif" border=0></A> 支持不仅要精神上的，还要行动上的记得带着kknd和inu来参加 [/quote]</P>
<P>经过这二天的观察，我要向大会郑重推荐一位政治立场坚定，业务熟练精通的好同志，那就是inu的母亲大人</P>

那你的父亲大人呢<br><br><br>[quote]原帖由 <i>zoe</i> 于 2008-5-7 12:07 AM 发表 <a href="http://www.umasscssa.org/forum/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=133010&amp;ptid=10966" target="_blank"><img src="http://www.umasscssa.org/forum/images/common/back.gif" alt="" border="0"></a>

经过这二天的观察，我要向大会郑重推荐一位政治立场坚定，业务熟练精通的好同志，那就是inu的母亲大人 [/quote]

广告贴沉下去是不能被接受的

I am attaching an email conversation between me and one of my committee members, which clarifies my standpoint and approach on Chinese political and social issues. Small change applies in order to protect people involved's identities.

Dear XXX:

I would like to begin from another question my advisor asked me when we had lunch two months ago. Following talk about The $1.4 Trillion Question, an article on the Atlantic, he asked: "Will a rising China pose threat to the States?" My immediate answer is "absolutely no. It's not China and the States at odds, but a small group of ruling class with an agenda of domination and a few big companies that have no boundary, sovereignty or ethics, versus the working ordinary people all around the world. The Chinese elite class, including bureaucratic capitalists and self-serving intellectuals, will join the concert. That's why these two administration can get along with each other in the past eight years." And I said that the capitalism is an automatic system and once on the track there will be no way back. China is already on this track, if not worse given a long history of feudalism, highly hierarchical bureaucracy, and prevailing meritocratic ideology. The question we should ask is this: "If the ruling class of these two big powers cooperate to promote a domination agenda, an agenda for elite class, what will it look like for tomorrow's world?"

For the past five years in the States I have already discussed with people with different perspectives, Chinese or American, liberal or conservative, about an approach I think will be doable to make China a better place and thus a more responsible to its own people, a more respectful member to this earth community. To be honest, I have been disappointed. It seems that the extreme leftist would like to employ a radical approach, if not revolution, to roll the clock back to the "old good days," while the liberals who believe that the human society has come to "the end point of history", i.e., liberal capitalism, want China to ride on the global capitalist train. Both sides share one same thing: the people in China could not represent themselves, but be represented by the elites, whether the revolutionary leftists or the politically correct liberals. Both are with-me-or-against-me approach.

A social justice education program is urgently needed in today's China. The mission of such a program could be to forge a civic society in which social organizations can play a bigger role in its functions and ordinary people can voice for themselves. When people in the United States talk about social justice, it's most probably referred to race, gender (or transgender), or sexuality, but class matters in China. The textbooks we are using are completely urban, consumerist, middle class oriented, with rare reference to the rural, working-class contexts. More important, it's always the working class ethnic minorities, female, rural people suffer most from the social injustice. I just pick up a recent article on NYT to support this point:

[url]http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/06/world/asia/06china.html?ref=asia[/url]

To deliver the change, we need more progressive social workers, more social justice activists, and more community service. There are really many things to do in the existing Chinese political and social framework. For one example, most Chinese employers would have their HR ads on the newspaper like this way: "We are looking for a male, under 35, with master degree and over three years of relating working experience in XXX field, in good health. . ." This kind of obvious age, gender, and health condition discrimination should be banned by an anti-discrimination law, which does not exist at this point. A lot of Chinese students in the States chose to stay here because of these kinds of barriers. And we need to increase the compulsory education years for all children, enforce the minimal wage for the labor workers, forge a universal health care for all citizens, fix the broken social security system for the retirees who contributed to this country's prosperity, and lift the news censorship that is stupid and virtually unnecessary. I think it will take a whole generation to make it happen and education is the key.

支持一下，第一次讲座时间定了吗？

是啊快点定下个时间吧，好有个具体的盼头