sailancer 2007-12-9 05:03 PM
Mike,讨论一个换档问题
背景:116拐进Boulders这个岔路的大坡
假如之前在4档高速(45-50MPH)行驶,然后这个下坡后右转。有两种方式:
1. 下坡时,丢到空档滑行,近弯后减速,然后直接换2档过弯或空档过弯
2. 下坡时,四档滑行,快近弯时减速,换三档,继续减速,三档或二档过弯
哪种比较好?
mike 2007-12-9 05:25 PM
我不赞成高速空挡滑行,因为遇到紧急情况只靠刹车的制动不保险。
我也不赞成一档一档的减速,因为没必要,还加大了齿轮的磨损。
如果遇到这种情况,我一般会挂着4档减速到大约20MPH左右,然后摘档,纯用刹车减速。
[quote]原帖由 [i]sailancer[/i] 于 2007-12-9 04:03 PM 发表
背景:116拐进Boulders这个岔路的大坡
假如之前在4档高速(45-50MPH)行驶,然后这个下坡后右转。有两种方式:
1. 下坡时,丢到空档滑行,近弯后减速,然后直接换2档过弯或空档过弯
2. 下坡时,四档滑行,快近 ... [/quote]
墨者革离 2007-12-9 05:40 PM
[quote]原帖由 [i]sailancer[/i] 于 2007-12-9 04:03 PM 发表
背景:116拐进Boulders这个岔路的大坡
假如之前在4档高速(45-50MPH)行驶,然后这个下坡后右转。有两种方式:
1. 下坡时,丢到空档滑行,近弯后减速,然后直接换2档过弯或空档过弯
2. 下坡时,四档滑行,快近 ... [/quote]
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墨者革离 2007-12-9 05:44 PM
What I usually do:
Approaching in gear 5 (40-50mph), take right foot off gas about 100m away. Start braking within 30m, decelerate to 20mph before entering the intersection. Downshift to gear 3 (blip to around 2000rpm), enter intersection, start accelerating before exiting the curve.
sailancer 2007-12-9 06:09 PM
OK, 综合Mike和墨者的说法
大抵这样:
在合适的距离,保持4档,放油门滑行,在合适的时候刹车减速,然后在入弯前后20MPH左右扔空档,然后过弯(过弯时可空档也可2档,或者3档?视速度情况?)~
关键点,1,不要高速空档,因为安全因素
2,也不必要一档一档降,因为齿轮因素
sailancer 2007-12-9 06:14 PM
所以就是把
1. 下坡时,丢到空档滑行,近弯后减速,然后直接换2档过弯或空档过弯
改进成
保持四档减速到20MPH(或合适速度),近弯,摘档,过弯
墨者革离 2007-12-9 06:31 PM
[quote]原帖由 [i]sailancer[/i] 于 2007-12-9 05:09 PM 发表
OK, 综合Mike和墨者的说法
大抵这样:
在合适的距离,保持4档,放油门滑行,在合适的时候刹车减速,然后在入弯前后20MPH左右扔空档,然后过弯(过弯时可空档也可2档,或者3档?视速度情况?)~
关键点,1,不要 ... [/quote]
不要空档过弯,进弯前降档,不要弯中换档
墨者革离 2007-12-9 06:34 PM
[quote]原帖由 [i]墨者革离[/i] 于 2007-12-9 05:31 PM 发表
不要空档过弯,进弯前降档,不要弯中换档 [/quote]
假定在你过弯到一半的时候发现后边的车要追你尾了,你现在在空档,怎么办?
墨者革离 2007-12-9 06:40 PM
顺便解释一下为什么我是进三档,不是二档。因为我的车多一个前进档,所以不同档位之间的齿轮比比较接近(close-ratio),如果3000rpm升档的话,我是大概20-30mph在三档
sailancer 2007-12-9 06:45 PM
你的车6个前进档?赞 哈哈
难怪你说的保持在5档 我还愣了一下哈哈
一般车应该是25-45之间在三档都正常吧 呵呵
嗯,我一般是近弯扔空档,刹车减速,然后换2档进弯 这样~
墨者革离 2007-12-9 06:52 PM
[quote]原帖由 [i]sailancer[/i] 于 2007-12-9 05:45 PM 发表
你的车6个前进档?赞 哈哈
难怪你说的保持在5档 我还愣了一下哈哈
一般车应该是25-45之间在三档都正常吧 呵呵
嗯,我一般是近弯扔空档,刹车减速,然后换2档进弯 这样~ [/quote]
齿轮比不一样,还是看转速表比较靠得住。2000-3000rpm是多数档位比较合适的转速。
我的做法是,进弯前带挡刹车减速,如果需要停下来的话摘档,否则直接降到合适档位进弯
sailancer 2007-12-9 06:56 PM
嗯,如果不是要停车的话,空档行进的确不安全哈
Hao(广州) 2007-12-10 12:51 AM
看头文字D看多了吧……
sailancer 2007-12-10 12:23 PM
[quote]原帖由 [i]Hao(广州)[/i] 于 2007-12-9 11:51 PM 发表
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Just for driving.
imac 2007-12-10 12:49 PM
减速轰油入弯,退档,打轮起,拉手闸,松手闸,打轮止,控制漂移,松刹车,回轮,轰油
这是一个下坡单向弯的最简单办法,116/boulders那个复合弯还要复杂一些。
我有头文字D原型那个哥们教如何过弯的录像,要不要学习... :kuangxiao :kuangxiao
[quote]原帖由 [i]sailancer[/i] 于 2007-12-10 11:23 AM 发表
Just for driving. [/quote]
sailancer 2007-12-10 01:14 PM
- -b!!!
I just want to have a smooth turning, and safe - -b!!!
墨者革离 2007-12-10 01:39 PM
[quote]原帖由 [i]imac[/i] 于 2007-12-10 11:49 AM 发表
减速轰油入弯,退档,打轮起,拉手闸,松手闸,打轮止,控制漂移,松刹车,回轮,轰油
这是一个下坡单向弯的最简单办法,116/boulders那个复合弯还要复杂一些。
我有头文字D原型那个哥们教如何过弯的录像, ... [/quote]
I would be interested. I guess there are not many FR cars around :happy
sailancer 2007-12-10 02:18 PM
[quote]原帖由 [i]墨者革离[/i] 于 2007-12-10 12:39 PM 发表
I would be interested. I guess there are not many FR cars around :happy [/quote]
FR? what's that?
But I don't think our cars would be OK to do this. (I don't mean CANNOT, I mean NOT FINE)
墨者革离 2007-12-10 02:55 PM
[quote]原帖由 [i]sailancer[/i] 于 2007-12-10 01:18 PM 发表
FR? what's that?
But I don't think our cars would be OK to do this. (I don't mean CANNOT, I mean NOT FINE) [/quote]
Front engine, rear-wheel drive. It is the best configuration for drift, if you have watched Initial-D.
sailancer 2007-12-10 02:58 PM
[quote]原帖由 [i]墨者革离[/i] 于 2007-12-10 01:55 PM 发表
Front engine, rear-wheel drive. It is the best configuration for drift, if you have watched Initial-D. [/quote]
o, got FR
but I don't see a relation between FR and RWD. I think our cars are mostly FR and FWD right?