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请大家帮我找一些英文资料

请大家帮我找一些英文资料

今天跟一好学老外就50年前中共对西藏是否侵略有了争论。争论到后来,这哥们总是对我的叙述的可靠性独立性表示怀疑,
我就告诉他我要赶大部队去喊口号了,让他留了email,准备给他发一些资料让他自学成才去。请大家踊跃提供英文资料和连接,
最好独立性和可靠性都比较高的。谢谢!
最好在今晚睡前
http://discussions.pbs.org/viewt ... topic_view=&start=0

这个楼主是澳大利亚人。我觉得写得比较客观。引用了不少资料
wow,this is a long post.....Lots of interesting stuff though. Who's finished it?
同居长干里,两小无嫌猜

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原帖由 chao 于 2008-4-9 11:04 PM 发表 wow,this is a long post.....Lots of interesting stuff though. Who's finished it?


hehe, nice.最后zd头头败下阵来,其实早就败了,只不过一直都在顽抗


话说回来,这帖子确实是比较理性的讨论


能学到不少东西

I reach page 4 now, hehe
我昨晚让Yan Tingxin和Zhao Yanli夫妇把以下的材料放在他们新建的博客里了。

博客地址:www.umasspeace.spaces.live.com

June Campbell: Traveler in space, in search of female identity in Tibetan Buddhism, London 1996;

http://www.anandainfo.com/tantric_robes.html
"The Emperor's Tantric Robes
An Interview with June Campbell on Codes of Secrecy and Silence"

Rene De Nebesky-Wojkowitz: Oracles and demons of Tibet, the cult and iconography of the Tibetan protective deities, Kathmandu 1993;
Farrow and Menon: The concealed essence of the Hevajra Tantra with the commentary Yogaratnamala, Delhi, 1992;
Alex Wayman: Yoga of the Guhyasamajatantra, The arcane lore of forty verses, Delhi 1977;
The Buddhist Tantras, New York 1973;
Geduen Choepel: Tibetan Arts of Love, Ithaca 1992;
Miranda Shaw: Passionate Enlightenment, Women in Tantric Buddhism, Princeton 1994;
Samtsen Gyaltsen Karmay, Secret visions of the fifth Dalai Lama, The Gold manuscript in the Fournier collection, London 1988;
Mary Craig: Kundun, a biography of the family of the Dalai Lama, London, 1997;
Melvyn Goldstein, A history of modern Tibet 1913-1951, The demise of the lamaist state, Berkeley, 1989;
A. Tom Grunfeld: The Making of Modern Tibet, New York, 1996;
Matthias Hermanns: Mythen und Mysterien Magie und Religion der Tibeter, Koeln 1956;
Das Nationalepos der Tibeter, Gling Koenigh Ge Sar, Regensburg, 1965;
Keith Dowman: Die Meister der Mahamudra, Leben, Legenden und Lieder der vierundachtzig Erleuchteten, Muenchen 1991;

以下是我曾在Mailing List里发过的:

The different views about Tibet issues
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tibet
In 1989, the Panchen Lama died, and the Dalai Lama and the PRC recognised different reincarnations. While officially an atheist state, the People's Republic of China has affirmed its right to
confirming high-level reincarnations, a tulku in the Tibetan tradition
of Vajrayana Buddhism, citing a precedent set by the Qianlong Emperor
of the Qing Dynasty (The PRC view is that Qianlong instituted a system
of selecting the Panchen Lama, the Dalai Lama and other high lamas by
means of a lottery which utilised a golden urn with names wrapped in
barley balls[Goldstein (1989), p44, n13]; the view of Tibetan exiles is that the system was a suggestion made by Qianlong and was not a
prerequisite for choosing the Panchen Lama). The Dalai Lama named
Gedhun Choekyi Nyima as the 11th Panchen Lama but without confirmation
by the vase lot, while the PRC named another child, Gyancain Norbu by
the vase lot.

Third-Party views

No country has ever publicly accepted Tibet as an independent state
[27], in spite of several instances of government officials appealing
to their superiors to do so [28]. Treaties signed by Britain and
Russia in the early years of the twentieth century [29] and others
signed by Nepal and India in the 1950s [30], recognized Tibet's
political subordination to China. The Americans presented their view
on 15 May 1943:

Tibet
For its part, the Government of the United States has borne in mind
the fact that...the Chinese constitution lists Tibet among areas
constituting the territory of the Republic of China. This Government
has at no time raised a question regarding either of these claims. [31]

Tibet

Not a single sovereign state, including India, has extended
recognition to the Tibetan Government-in-exile in the more than two
decades of its existence, despite obvious precedents for such an
action. This lack of legal recognition of independence has forced even
some strong supporters of the refugees to admit that:

Tibet
...even today international legal experts sympathetic to the Dalai
Lama's cause find it difficult to argue that Tibet ever technically
established its independence of the Chinese Empire, imperial, or
republican. [32]

Tibet

In spite of these circumstances, there recently has been a concerted
effort by lawyers, particularly in the United States, to build a legal
case for Tibetan independence, and there is a growing literature on
this topic. Theoretically, under the Montevideo Convention the United
Nations recognizes four criteria for statehood: (a) a permanent
population, (b) a defined territory, (c) a government, and (d)
capability of entering into relations with other states. Tibet
fulfills those requirements. However, so does the Canadian province of
Quebec, every U.S. state, Chechnya, Northern Ireland, Tamil Eelam,
among others.

The Struggle for Modern Tibet: The Autobiography of Tashi Tsering
by Melvyn C. Goldstein, William Siebenschuh, Tashi Tsering

http://www.amazon.com/Struggle-M ... ring/dp/07656050...


This captivating autobiography by a Tibetan educator and former political prisoner is full of
twists and turns. Born in 1929 in a Tibetan village, Tsering developed a strong dislike of his
country's theocratic ruling elite.
As a 13-year-old member of the Dalai Lama's personal dance troupe, he was frequently whipped or beaten by teachers for minor infractions. A heterosexual, he escaped
by becoming a drombo, or homosexual passive partner and sex-toy, for a well-connected monk. After studying at the University of Washington, he returned to Chinese-occupied Tibet in 1964, convinced that Tibet could become a modernized society based on
socialist, egalitarian principles only through cooperation with the Chinese. Denounced as a
"counterrevolutionary" during Mao's Cultural Revolution, he was arrested in 1967 and spent
six years in prison or doing forced labor in China.
Officially exonerated in 1978, Tsering became a professor of English at Tibet University in
Lhasa. He now raises funds to build schools in Tibet's villages, emphasizing Tibetan language
and culture. Written with Goldstein, head of Case Western Reserve's anthropology department,
and Siebenschuh, a Case English professor, this unusual autobiography valiantly suggests a
middle way between authoritarian Chinese rule and a return to Tibet's old order.

A Personal Journal about Tibet
http://www.mitbbs.com/pc/index.php?id=OverCloud

Dalai Lama on CIA Payroll

According to Wikipedia, "Prior to Chinese rule, over 700,000 of Tibet's population of 1.2
million were in serfdom" - working on lands owned by the lamas, under a feudal society of
warlords and even slavery. This system continued for a few years after the Chinese takeover, ruled comfortably by the lamas - that is, until the Chinese instituted a policy of
land reform and redistribution in accord with communist principles. Then things started to
get hairy:
http://www.timboucher.com/journa ... ama-on-cia-payroll/
http://www.straight.com/content.cfm?id=952
http://www.umsl.edu/~skthoma/dalai.htm
http://www.members.tripod.com/~journeyeast/cia_betrayal.html
http://www.disinfo.com/archive/pages/dossier/id393/pg1/

The Dalai Lama's hidden past

Tibet's Buddhist monastic nobility controlled all land on behalf of the "gods''. They monopolised the country's wealth by exacting tribute and labour services from peasants
and herders. This system was similar to how the medieval Catholic Church exploited
peasants in feudal Europe.
http://www.greenleft.org.au/back/1996/248/248p23.htm
In the Dalai Lama's Tibet, torture and mutilation---including eye gouging,
the pulling out of tongues, hamstringing, and amputation--were favored
punishments inflicted upon runaway serfs and thieves. Journeying through
Tibet in the 1960s, Stuart and Roma Gelder interviewed a former serf, Tsereh
Wang Tuei, who had stolen two sheep belonging to a monastery. For this he
had both his eyes gouged out and his hand mutilated beyond use.
http://www.michaelparenti.org/Tibet.html
你是外国哪国人?
说Sorry!

一个不错的Poster。。。

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生平不抽烟,不饮酒,不喝咖啡,一杯龙井相伴,笑读五经诸史;
惟愿少鲁莽,少冲动,少说气话,三思后行为戒,淡看百事纷争。

Jan 2007 更新版

 


貌似这个有Jan 2007的更新版:


http://www.michaelparenti.org/Tibet.html


 


 


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原帖由 kknd 于 2008-4-9 09:45 PM 发表 http://discussions.pbs.org/viewtopic.pbs?t=68073&postdays=0&postorder=asc&topic_view=&start=0 这个楼主是澳大利亚人。我觉得写得比较客观。引用了不少资料

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